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19 August 2008 @ 08:55 pm
Yeesh folks. The movie wasn't that good.  
I finally saw The Dark Knight last night.

...

That was a really, really, really, REALLY LONG MOVIE.

Heath Ledger did do a good job as the Joker, as everyone says. It's not a funny Joker, just a horrible one. The licking-his-lips thing? Very very creepy.

Two-Face was kinda lame. They shoulda just saved all that for another movie, or left it out altogether. Batman movies don't really need more than one villain; maybe two villains, tops.

And you know how Christian Bale keeps saying if they bring in a Robin, he won't play Batman? PLEASE PLEASE PUT ROBIN IN THE NEXT MOVIE. I can't take the "BAT-VOICE" Bale's created. If I were a Gotham supervillain and Batman showed up, I'd be all "Dude, have a cough drop." So let's have a new Batman and a new Robin and a new villain, since I doubt anyone's gonna want to try the Joker again anytime soon. (Pity. I really wanted a Harley Quinn movie.)f
 
 
 
Colleen  "the Latest and the Greatest"foolonthehill on August 20th, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I feel like a freak sometimes when I tell people that I didn't care much for it, his voice grates my nerves and I thought it was faar to long :D

I always knew you were nifty ;D
creatorpunksaturn on August 20th, 2008 05:25 am (UTC)
I liked Two-Face! I thought he was creepy, but I hope that they actually develop him a bit more in the subsequent movie.

And yeah.. the "bat-voice" was a bit off-putting. I was trying to remember whether he used that voice in the first film?
Suzik00kaburra on August 20th, 2008 06:06 am (UTC)
I am pretty sure he had a version of the voice in the first movie, but it wasn't as pronounced. It was noticeable, but not over-the-top.
~ * flurr sprite * ~nkicroft on August 20th, 2008 08:58 am (UTC)
AGREED.

too long (i went to see it a second time with friends who hadn't at the imax theatre here, and i fell asleep haha).

two face was meh, and bringing in scarecrow was pretty pointless.

there was too much of the bat voice, seriously. even if i think his costume included an auto voice synthesizer or something... there shoulda been an "off" button or something.

but, for me, heath ledger made the movie. and because he was so awesome, i liked it. and i totally was looking forward to harley quinn!
Megmilis on August 20th, 2008 12:38 pm (UTC)
The length of the movie was really my only complaint with it. They could have chopped out a good 20 minutes.

The bat voice annoyed me in the first movie, but right before I saw the second one I read an article that put a good perspective on it. No other Batman has really had a bat voice, but it makes sense. If Bruce Wayne is really such a public figure his own voice would be recognizable to most of Gotham instantly. It is a miracle there hasn't been "bat voices" right along. Other than that I love Bale, I couldn't really see any of the other actors around right now making a better Batman in these films.
Suzik00kaburra on August 20th, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
I know he doesn't really count because he's a voice actor and therefore not a "real" actor, but Kevin Conroy has an amazing Bat Voice (and according to Wiki he was one of the first to use a Bat Voice). His Batman sounds different from his Bruce Wayne without sounding like he's choking on a pile of rocks.

I'll have to think about who I would nominate as replacement Batmans. I'll get back to you on that one!
jeanniejeannietran on August 20th, 2008 04:33 pm (UTC)
Rumor has it the Riddler is the next villian and it may be Johnney Depp... which I don't know about. I'd rather they go the Heath Ledger-Joker route and pick a random actor who you would have never thought of to play that kind of role.

But I really liked the Dark Knight [and yes, the gruff Bat-voice bugged me too... it was more silly than intimidating] I was pretty into it so I didn't really notice how long it was. I loved how they used sonar technology so he could "see" what's going on in the entire building. Very clever. And Maggie Gyllenhal was way better than Katie Holmes; I usually never like it when they change actors but she did a good job. I also really liked Detective Gordan.
fashion_piranhafashion_piranha on August 20th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
Gordan is fantastic. I always forget about him because he isn't flashy or spectacular like the other heroes and villains, but he is one of the best characters in the movies.

I feel like Batman villains come in different categories. There's the more cerebral/psychological villains like Riddler and Scarecrow, who have been more interested in screwing with people rather than the crimes committed. Joker falls into that category too, although he's the most violent by far. I wish they'd do some other sort of villain in the next movie. I think Poison Ivy would be really cool; she'd make a great eco-terrorist type like those animal rights bombers running around in Santa Cruz.
I always did like the Riddler in the 60s TV show. He's fantastic.
jeanniejeannietran on August 20th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC)
My knowledge of Batman isn't too extensive, but I see your point. It would be nice to see a different class of villian; I'm sure there are lots of new Batman movies in the works. Wasn't there some kind of Mummy-type villain? That's one I want to see.

PS we should hang out soon [and not just because I need more Cosmetic Lad]. Does the new season of Project Runway seem blah to you?
tryptonymphetictryptonymphetic on August 22nd, 2008 09:37 am (UTC)
I liked the movie.
And I liked Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker. But you've read my lj of late, and you know what I'm about - a chaos worshiping villain who sees himself as enlightening a naive, panicky, self-involved world through destruction is right up my alley (see also: Fight Club.) I feel that that creepiness and madness came from a very genuine place, perhaps one inside him that was truly disgusted with himself and the world he was seeing. The Joker has always been cartoonish and annoying to me as far as Batman villains went, so he was refreshing.

I do agree that the movie was too freaking long though. Anytime I anticipate the movie ending three or more times before it actually does I start to get irritated. (see also: Prince Caspian.)
whimsicalbeauwhimsicalbeau on August 23rd, 2008 02:56 am (UTC)
I've just been telling people that it's a good batman movie, but it's not a very good movie in a more general sense.

What's more, is there are a few plot points that could easily have been cut out, and a twist or two. Which I won't mention for the point of spoilers.
fashion_piranhafashion_piranha on August 25th, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC)
I feel so conflicted about that. I think my brain just can't process it.
jeanniejeannietran on August 25th, 2008 05:54 pm (UTC)
It would be... interesting, at least. What I enjoyed about Ledger's performance as the Joker was that he was genuinely creepy. If I ran into him in a dark [or even bright] alley I would be totally freaked out, which is how I like my villains. Cher and Johnny Depp... not so much. But Nolan's given us two great Batman movies so far, I'll assume he knows what he's doing.